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"Bars That Were"

 

A GLBT Community Pride Project
"Bars That Were"
 

217 & Counting
Pride is a time to reflect.
But Remember
"Today is going to be the future's good old days!"
......Mark & Carrie

MC Film & Friends have put together this list of "Bars That Were"


Now we need the community's help & WELCOME your in put!

Tell us something about your favorite club and email us to be put into the clubs memories archives.

Example: See what Brian & Horst wrote about "The Wedgewood"
We will then post everything on www.MCFILMFEST.com


Please send your memories, additions & corrections to
MCFILMFEST@aol.com
THANK YOU


The Knotty Pine  - Tampa 1940's


 

Disclaimer
All this information is just for fun. We have no idea if it's true or not. When collecting the info we talked with friends, club patrons, bartenders, club owners. Many times they had completely different memories of what had happened. As one person said, "We never went to that club because it was full of old people. Today I realize that we were 21 & old was 30!"
 

Community Trivia


What Club has moved the most times?
The KIKIKI wins moved 3 times & open one satellite in St. Pete
It's a tie for #2  - The Tampa Eagle moved 3 times & Baxters moved 3 times.

What is the oldest Bar?
The KIKIKI III.  #2 oldest is The Pro Shop in Clearwater and  is the oldest bar in one location.

 

What building has had the most Gay Bars located in it?
The winner with 7 names.
Peppers in Gulfport was: ...  Cheshire Cat, Kats, Puzzles, Vaughan's Box Office, Twins, Sharp A's & now Peppers.
A close number 2  with 6 name changes is... The building next to the dog track on Gandy.
Chaps, Copa, Spectrum, The Saint, Benders, Club de Nile
 
 
What was the code word bartenders used at the gay bars for a possible police raid?
"Ms Kennedy is coming"
 
What was the police vice squad motto in the 1950's & 1960's?
"Don't Ask - Don't Tell"
 
What Performer has performed at the most Gay or Lesbian Clubs in Florida? & Can name them all?
"Judy B. Goode" has performed at 100+ Clubs & is still going strong &  is still remembering more!
Lounge 714 (Ybor), A.J's (Jacksonville), Apple's Way, Artie's North and Artie"s South (WPB), Backroom Bar, Backstreet, Baxter's, Bedrocks, B.G's(WPB), BJ's, Bleachers (WPB), Blue Jeans, Blue Lagoon, Bobbie V's, Bo's Coral Reef (Jacksonville), Borders, Bottom Line (Fort Meyer), BT's, Cellar Pub (Homosassa), Cherokee Club, Cherry Grove(Miami), Cheshire Cat, Christopher Street (Sarasota), City Lights, Club Chada (Sarasota), Club Caribbean,(Fort Lauderdale), Connection(Ocala), Cove, David's, Detours ( St. Pete), Dockside, Donnie's club 422, Donnie's Club International, Donnie's Tropical Restaurant and Bar 801(key west) 1470 West, 5101(wpb), 416 (Key West), Flamingo, Flirt Night Club & Show Bar ( Ybor), Foolish Beat, Frankley Scarlett (Fort Walton), Full Moon Saloon, Garbo's (Delray beach), Gold Coast Bar(Fort Lauderdale), Grand Central Station,  Inn Exile(wpb), Katzz, K&E (WPB), Keith's, Kevin's Cabaret(wpb), Kim's Club, Kodiak Pub(Orlando), Kozlow's Libation's (Fort Lauderdale), Lighted Tree, Lounge 714 ( Ybor), Lost and Found,  Lu'Lu'Place (Delray Beach), Lovey's Pub (Holiday), Malibu's (WPB), Melody Club (Gainesville), MC Film, Ms Behavin (WPB),  New Connection, Northside,  Oar House,  Oasis,  Paradise Parliament House, Pepper Tree,  Phil's Place Camp Ground(Reddick),  Planet MC, Pro Shop, Rainbow,  Rascal's,  Ricky J's (Sarasota), Rock-nSports (Ybor), Roosters (wpb),  Roosters(Sarasota), Roy's,  Green Parrot,  Sahara, Saucy's,  Sharp A's, Sherman's (wpb),  Silks, Skippers, Sporters ( St. Pete), Sports Page, Stars,  Suncoast Resort - Grand Opening & Lunar & Wedgewood Lounge, The Coffee Shop (wpb), The Stud (Fort Lauderdale), Tracks,  Triangles, Uncle Walt's (Orlando), Vault VIP Lounge,  You are Cabaret. Judy was also the warm up act, in 1987,  for "Helen Reddy" at Tampa Pride.  Also performed at various Tampa prides, St. Pete Pride, Orlando & New orleans Prides & Daytona Beachfest. & "The Reggis & Kathy Lee Show", & Many more straight clubs! Go Judy www.judybgoode.com  www.myspace.com/judybgoode

 

 

"Bars That Were"


421 Salon
Located on Mac Dill Ave in Tampa owned by Bill. Today is "The Rainbow"

1470
Located at 325 Main Street in Dunedin. Closed in 2004. Also see "Dallape's"
1470 on 325 Main Street was also called at one time, Club 325, i know, i bardtended there for a short time, i forgot who owned or ran the club, but the boss man i remember was a guy who also was a hairdresser., do you remember this club in dunedin? anthony

Adonis
Located on North  Franklin Street where the State Building is located near the interstate. It was an under aged club with no liquor or beer sales. It did have drag shows and a lot of drag queens did their first acts there.
 
Annex
In Tampa on Kennedy Blvd. Closed in 1997. Later become "Kim's Club." Today it's the upscale straight club "Bahasa Lounge."

Angel's
In Tampa located on South Dale Mabry. Closed in 1998. Today is "The Male Room"
 
 
Another Other End
Hi Carrie & Mark:  Please add to your anthology of the "Bars that Were":
ANOTHER OTHER END on Bay Pines Blvd. which was a lesbian bar in the mid
1980's and featured live entertainment. The back cover of July, 1986,
Womyn's Words is a full page ad and photo for Melissa Etheridge touring
with a saxaphone player named Barbara Marino.
The cover charge was $2.50!
Thanks.
Pat the Plumber, Womyn's Words editor
Melissa Etheridge's song "Scarecrow" written as a eulogy to Mathew
Shepherd is the epidemy of heartwrenching lyrics dedicated to the memory
of an intelligent, sensitive, beautiful young man viciously murdered
for being gay.

Apple's Way
location Central Ave Later became DT's

Azaelea Gardens
In Tampa

Babylon
see "Rascal's"
 
Backstage
Located on Nebraska Ave Left of Beares Ave. Tampa
 
 
Backroom Bar
Located at 14601 Gulf Blvd., Maderia Beach, 727-391-2680

 

Backstreet Mall
Originally opened in Clearwater in the 80's. "Tony H." was a bartender there. Connected to it was a bar called "The Boy's Next Door." Many famous Acts preformed there such as "The Original Village People", "Eartha Kitt", "Divine" "The Weather Girls"  And "Judy B. Goode" !!!This whole complex moved to 5th St North in St. Pete, closed in 1987. Owners Mick now lives in Tampa Bay & Marge is alive & well and  has moved to Orlando area.

Baxter's 1, 2 & 3
First opened on S. Dale Mabry then the building was knocked down (today is the Verizon Store) Sandy Moody sang here. Then move in to "Moody's" on South Dale Mabry, Then closed & "Angelo" bought the name & opened where it is today.

Bedrox
On the beach in Treasure Island. Closed in 1997. A one of a kind building designed to with stand hurricanes.

Benders
See "Chaps"

Boy's Next Door, The
Located next to "Backstreet Mall" closed in 1987

Blue Jeans
Located on Gandy Blvd. Closed in 2004. Crazy Billy is still around to day. At "The Male Room" Also see "Rainbow"
 

Blue Diamond, The
Elegent dance and showbar on First Ave S. in in St.
Pete. The night of its grand opening the line to get in wound around
the block.  Frankie DeLee, show director brought in stars from around
the country. Closed in 1980. Rand Hall  worked the door and her partner was the
hostess.
 
Blue Mirror
See "Fuzzy Mouse"

Blue Moon Saloon
See "Rafters"

Bobby V's
Located on Cypress. Owned by "Uncle Tom Barcia" who played the organ & had fish fries! Today it's an office building.

 
BOY
Located on the Franklin Street Mall in Tampa

Brass Rail
Located in Tampa Photos of Bobby Smith & Female impersonators Tommy & Jackie Maye 1949. Was not a Gay bar. It was a stripper bar. Might have had drag in on occasions.



Bridge Club
After hours bottle club located on Hillsborough Ave in Tampa behind the airport.  With tinfoil ceilings and Christmas lights for color. Located in an industrial park, and if you stayed early enough into the morning, you would see workers working in their warehouses. Famous for Halloween Party by the Pharoes. Closed in the 90's.

Brigg, The also called Tampa Brigg
Located at 9002 N. Florida Ave., Tampa A leather bar see "Northside" - "Joey's", -"Flings On Florida" now called "Midtown Tavern"

Brothers
In St. Pete on 5th Street. Closed years ago. Known for its cruising & disco bar

BT's
Located at 7737 Grand Blvd. in Port Richey. Is now called "Waterside Lounge"

BJ's
Located on Kennedy Blvd. In Tampa. BJ was the mother of all lesbians! Judy B. Goode came out there one night. BJ also owner of the "Oasis." Anybody know where she is today? Darlen said that she saw her & she is doing good.

Buns
Located a couple blocks behind the "KIKIKI III" on Kennedy. It was the old "Carousel" on Platt Street.

BVD's
Located on Busch Blvd. in Tampa. The BVD clothing company threatened to sue if they didn't change the name, so the name was changed to "Boys Video Dance." The Gay Men's Chorus...performed a Holiday concert 1991. It was quite busy for a short time until someone shot a bullet thru the club. Closed in 1992.
 
Carousel
Opened in 1960's in Tampa on Platt Street. Early days was quite the popular dance place. Later years  Famous Porn Star "Joey Stefano" was arrested there. Ceasar ran it in the 60's. The liquor license came from the Desoto Hotel when the hotel closed.
Memory: Became the Frat House when the owners of Village Station bought it. Then became Carousel when Alfredo bought it. It was also called Zippers. Tom B.
 
here's my two cents:
I first saw Claudia doing her signature "rolling on the floor" at the Carousel.  How did she manage that in such a small place, who knows.
I was at Howard Avenue Station the night of the raid.  I was already living in Orlando, but was visiting for Halloween.  My friends wanted to leave because they said something fishy was going on.  About an hour after we left the place was raided.
    My very first boyfriend, the very handsome Jeff Matheny, was one of their first bartenders.  He later moved to Houston and worked at the Montrose Mining Company.  He passed away in 1995.  Jeff also worked at the OP sometime in the early 80's.  One time coming out of the Op after work, he was jumped by a gang of teenagers, who bashed him pretty bad.  They didn't even take his money.  After we dated for a time, we became best of friends.  Jeff was the brother I never had.
    When I was 19 I went to Rene's and I guess Rene saw that I was a newbie and made every effort to make feel at home.  He introduce himself, was the nicest man ever.  He introduced me to one of his friends, whom I dated for a short time.  He even had me over to his house for dinner a couple of times.  I miss people like him.
    I will always remember the impromptu Drag Shows between the tables at the Red Apple.
    Carrot Top is a regular at the Club Firestone in Orlando.
    I remember hanging out with Rick Castillo at Tracks.  I was a dance student at USF and always wanted me to do back-up for the shows, but not having a car back then made it impossible to get to rehearsals.
    Thank you for bringing such wonderful memories to mind.  I moved to Tampa in 1981, went to USF and then moved to Orlando in 90.  Couldn't stay away and I moved back, but to St. Pete in 99. 
    One more memory.  I remember going to your store on Kennedy and buying all my gay needs there, from cards to lube, gifts to who knows what else.  I loved going to that store.
Lots of love, Carlos Milan
 
Castle, The
Located in Ybor. MC Film & Manny did a Billy Doll coming out party here.
Today they are members of the GaYBOR District Coalition and host many GLBT Nights here.
 
Casablanca
A women's bar on Bay Pines Blvd in St. Pete, open for about
a year in the early to late 80s.
 
 
Club Chambers
http://clubchambers.com/
Located at 1701 N. Franklin St., Tampa 813-223-1300

Chantilly Lace
Located between Fowler & Fletcher on Nebraska Ave. Popular drag club. Next to the Todd Theater.
 
Chaps
Was a country western bar originally located in Pinellas Park on 49th Street. Then moved to Gandy Blvd. by the dog track. We think this was the first in a long chain of clubs. "Coppa", "Spectrum," "The Saint", "Benders", "Club de Nile"

Cherokee Club
Located at 1320 E 9th Ave in Ybor. It was an upscale New Orleans style women's club. Managed for 7 years by Darlen.

Chrome
Located at 901 N. Franklin St in Tampa. Closed in 2004

City Limits, The New
Located in Brandon
 
City of Night's
A Bottle club. on Fletcher & Nebraska. Chic Hodges & Jeff owners. Gilda Golden was the MC there

City Side - Neptune
Originally located on  Neptune Ave in Tampa. Today they have a new look and are located in the former "Jungle"
 
Clock
After hours men's club , 26th and 34th St South
 
Club
1113 Central Ave in St Pete, was the Red Devil. An older crowd but had disco dancing
 
Club 325
See 1470 Bar in Dunedin. Changed to 1470
 
Club 2606
In 1988 it changes owners & became "2606" that it is today.

Club, The
Located downtown St. Pete on Central Ave. Closed in the 80's.
 
Club Central
A fun show bar 26th St and Central Ave in St. Pete that
closed in 1980.

Club de Nile
Famous for it's beds! See "Chaps"

Club Mercedes
Located in Clearwater. The current club owner Chris of "Valentine's" opened this club in 1999 or 2000. The become "Male Box"

Club NRG
Located in Ybor City. Managed by Darlene.
 
Club Train Station
In Tampa?
 

Copa
"The Copa" was where "Chaps" (by the dog track on Gandy Blvd.) was. "The Copa" was well known for it's Sunday T-dance. It turned into "The Saint," then "Benders," then "Club de Nile." Today is a straight stripper bar. See "Chaps" also some where in here it was once called "Spectrum."

Cork and Kettle, The
Located in Osprey.
Glenn writes:
There was a bar in the late 60's called the "Cork and Kettle" in Osprey
(below Sarasota) that a lot of us went to because it was really a
restaurant so you could get in under 21 if you went early enough to get
a sandwich before they started checking ID's at night

Cove, The
Located in Tampa on Henderson. Closed in the early 90's. Remember Larry Forman and his gravely voice! "The Cove" changed owners and became "The Wet Spot." Later, it became "The Jungle," complete with a big tree behind the bar. Today it is the new "City Side" also known as "CS."


Cream 
It was an after hours club, right next to Solar on Franklin Street.
 
Crystals
Located on Central Ave in St. Pete. Closed in the 70's owner Billy Glasser & Jelord Black

Cucujo's
Located on Kennedy Blvd. See "Jimmy Whites"

Dallape's
Located on Main Street in Dunedin closed in the 90's. then became the 1470 West. which closed in 2004.

David's
Located on Gunn HWY. in Carrollwood - Tampa run by Larry Montgomery, who had run the original "Spurs" later the original "Impulse" located on the 1st floor of "Spurs" which later became "The Eagle" then burnt down.

Davy Jone's Locker
Located in St. Pete Beach in the 70's. Famous for drag shows. The Famous "Jewel Box Review" performed there. Mark from MC Film has one of the performers autograph.

Denny's
OK this was not a Gay bar but should have been. Located on Kennedy Blvd. at the Hillsborough River. Where the gay patrons would help themselves to the coffee pots. Across the street  was the University of Tampa Dorm. Today it's the Tampa tribune. Across the river is  going to be the new Trump Tower. Denny's a vacant lot next to the Tampa Tribune.

Dew Drop Inn, The
Short run bar where Westside Lounge was Central & 49th St .before KiKiKi 4
 
Ding-A-Lings
Located on 34th St & Central Ave in St. Petersburg. Was a male stripper club complete with a pole! Then became "Twirl". This club was formerly called "Heavenly Bodies" a straight stripper club that Kat managed. many drag queens performed here for extra money!
 
Dock Side
In Lakeland

DT's
Located on Central Ave in St. Pete. Owned by Wayne. Today it is "The Grand Central Station - the Platform" See "Stuffed Peppers" - "Apple's Way" -

Duece, The
Located in Tampa just north of the interstate in Tampa Heights. Owners Nick & Abe Closed in the 90's.

Eagle, The
Not to be confused with "Tampa Eagle" this club was located in the "Spurs" building - Ybor City
 
Hi Guys!  I wanted to make a few corrections to the Bar List. 
"The Eagle" was actually the first Tampa Eagle in the old Spurs building in Ybor.  The downstairs was a dance bar named The Exile, which isn't listed.  Bill Knauf of Tombs & Treasures leased the restaurant, Eagle's Nest and his lover at the time, Richard Shanks, leased a store that sold leather goodies named The Eagle Shop.  He now is the owner of Mr. S Leathers in San Francisco.
I know this because I was co-owner with my ex-partner, Thom Lewis (see Spurs), we did not own Spurs, just the building later.  Horst was one of our bartenders. 
Thom later bought Northside and renamed it The Brigg until he caused it to go spiraling into the ground.
Keep up the good work!
 
Scott Kjeer
*******************************************************************************
I'm very resentful toward Scott Kjeer's continued incorrect memory of circumstances of which he knew nothing about.
 
More specifically, his reference regarding the Tampa Brigg under the Tampa Eagle reference.
 
I would very much appreciate the removal of his comment regarding the Brigg.
 
I had a heart attack in 2001 which caused many problems for me, not that Mr. Kjeer cares, but these problems spilled over into my business.
 
At any rate just kindly remove this reference and it might be advisable in the future not to post these sort of statements.
 
Tom Lewis
 

El Goya/ Tracks/ Pleasure Dome
Located in Tamp's Ybor City on 7th Ave. It burned in the 70's then reopened, Later it became "Tracks", then "Pleasure Dome". Bill Grey & partner ? ,orginal owners of "The Parliment House" owned "The El Goya" till the fire. In 1978 Frank & Bob Fornier became the owners. It was best known for it's Tuesday Nights!!!
        
      Memory:  I just remembered that during El Goya's heyday, there was a drag club that opened up around four blocks east on 7th, on a nw corner of the intersection. It starred Tissie Malone, Stephanie Shippae's "cousin", and she was one of the first queens to get implants (she had named them). The bar burned down.
Horst

 
Hey guys, what an undertaking! To my memory, and the best one to tell it all would be Vicki at the Parliament House, Frank Hodge, the main owner of the Parliament House, and an employee from there who bought into El Goya, Frank Cociera (I worked for them, so I know this is right), opened El Goya again after the fire. It was the first time there was a show room, and there were shows 5-7 (?) nights per week, twice a night. (I was a cocktail boy). Then later it died when the O.P. opened. Howard Ave and Impulse killed O.P., then when the Tracks corp, out of Denver opened El Goya again, it killed Impulse (which then went straight new wave--worked there too). Bob Fournier of the O.P. and Village Station corp out of Dallas NEVER had anything to do with the El Goya building.
 
Frank Cociera died early, and when Mike Hodge died, he left most of the Parliament House to his straight brother, to Vicki, a French guy named Michelle (who had worked with them forever--at El Goya too), and maybe a couple of others. Of course it was all sold to the straight Canadian couple a few years ago, but for about ten years the others were all co-owners of the P.H.
H.

Engine Room, The

Located on downtown St. Pete. Closed in the 80's. Owned by famous local attorney Bob Pope Before "Engine Room "it was called "Kitty's.

Fantasy
Lesbian club on 14095 North Nebraska

Flamingo
Located in downtown Clearwater. Closed in the 80's. Was a nice little bar restaurant. Opened by Barbara (B.J.) former owner of B.J.'s

Factory, The
A large dance club with 2 clubs & VIP Room. Had Tampa Pride there in 1997 after a mixup with the Port Athority over liquor sales. Also see "Parthenon"

Flavour
In Ybor City. Not around too long.
i just wanted to say "flavour" was short lived but fondly remembered! a lot of people bring this place up yet. it had a tecno dance floor upstairs and a packed disco 70's bar downstairs with all the stairs  and confessional booths upstairs it was quite a place.  it also had female strippers too.   who could forget rascals thursdays nites? it was packed just like the alibi is on sat!  Dwayne

Fire House Pub, the
Located in a Mall at Busch & Florida. The owner was killed in his car behind. Closed early 80's. Rodney who worked at "The University Restaurant" did a male strip on top of the bar on his 30th Birthday There.
 
What with this talk about Rodney from University Rest, I got to reminiscing (sp?). Do either of you remember Frankie and Liz, the eccentric straight couple from the 70's?  I heard many times that he was quite the "Ziggy Stardust" during the Horny Bull and City of NIght days. When I started going out in the late 70's, they were always out. Then after their only child was born in the early 80's, Roxanne (named after Roxanne Russell), they stopped going out. Well I just looked in the phone book and they are STILL HERE!! (Last name was Younce, easy for me to remember). So...I'll call them in the next few days and inform them of the bars update, and see if they have any input. I can't believe Roxanne must be in her mid-20's by now!! How is it they all age so fast and we don't?/!! Take care, friends,
Horst (and Brian
 
 
Surprised that someone else hasn't spoke up here but the Fire House pub actually became the Northside Lounge or as I understand, the Northside was sort of a straight simi country western bar in trouble and patrons from Fire House just started to go to the Northside (owned by Vince Muto [straight  of course]) but than bought by someone - can't remember his name but had great cliental in the mid 80's and lost it back to Vince.  Thom Lewis


Foolish Beat
On Park Ave in Seminole. A women's bar with live entertainment


Frat House
See Carousel
 
French Connection
9610 Gulf Blvd in Treasure Island

Full Moon Salon
Open a very short time. Located in the Tampa Eagle #1. See "Impulse"

Fungi's
On Grand central in Tampa where the Save Rite is today.

 

 
Fuzzy Mouse
Opened in the late 70's on Howard & Armenia in Tampa. aka "Blue Mirror"

Garage, The

The "Garage" after "Parthenon" then "The Factory" where Boy George Performed in concert.
 
Gate, The
It was the bar upstairs at Spaghetti Palace. In the early 1960's a police raid and charged people for being deviant at an establishment. There was a code the  bars had if they knew of an upcoming police raid. The bartenders said, " Miss Kennedy was on the way." This was in reference to what some thought President Kennedy might be gay and was the gay reference to being raided. Also it represented the bad sentiment of Provincetown's gay bars being raided and closed in the 60's by US Attorney General Robert Kennedy.
 
Golden Anchor
Located in Tampa at Hesperdes & Kennedy

Golden Arrow, The
Located at 10604 Gandy Blvd. Closed in late 2001. Very popular patio and home to a number of gay organizations. Today it's a vacant lot.
 
GQ's
Located North Dale Mabry at Lambright. Mike was the manager and Gary, bartender at Carousel worked here also.
 
Grand Central
Located in Central Ave 11th in St. Pete where the police station is today.
 
Grand Central Station 
http://www.grandcentralstationfl.com/ 
Located at 2612 central Ave., St. Petersburg 727-327-8204  Owners Chris & Jim


Green Parrot
Located at 1030 E. Main St in Lakeland. For years was one Floridas oldest Gayclubs. Today it's called "Pulse"

Gus N' Lil's
Owned by the original owners of "Knotty Pine" on Henderson. Started out straight but  when they weren't making much money tried to turn it gay. Nobody really went back.

Horny Bull, The
Tampa's real first drag bar, where Gilda, Roxanne, Kim, Bobbi, Sandi Cher, Eve Starr, and so many others got their start. The club didn't even have a liquor license!

Howard Ave Station
located at 3003 North Howard Ave. Opened December 1987. Closed in 1995 after a famous drug raid. DIVINE did a Tampa appearance, in Feb. of 1988, two weeks later she died. (She also appeared at Backstreet Mall in Clearwater.)  A Great Dance Club!!! Remember Claudia?
 
 
oops i also forgot the infamous drug raid at howard ave. station was on valentines day 1997 the bar reopened for a short while that fall and closed for good early the next spring.  Dwayne
Impressions
Dance club
 
Impulse (Same name two different Clubs & owners years apart.)
Originally located on the first floor of "Spurs" in Ybor. Then another Club (not related) , years later, called "Impulse" opened on S. Nebraska Ave. Later became "Tampa Eagle," "Full Moon Salon" and then "Rain."
 
The Impulse was located on 15th St. Ybor, originally Spurs.  It was owned by Bob Cristaldi, (who also worked at Thompson Realty) owned by Willard Thompson who owned Spurs.   &n